Monday, October 13, 2025

The True Cost of Building a Realistic Boxing Video Game

 

The True Cost of Building a Realistic Boxing Video Game

An Investigative Breakdown of Budget, Staffing, and What’s Missing at Steel City Interactive

“You can replicate anything you see in real life. There’s no excuse for not doing justice to boxing in video game form.”
Poe, The Real Boxing Game Movement


1️⃣ Why This Investigation Matters

Boxing video games have been absent from the mainstream for over a decade. The ambition to capture authentic boxing realism—not arcade fighting—demands more than flashy graphics. It requires a full ecosystem of developers, animators, AI engineers, mocap specialists, and licensing deals to reflect the sport’s depth and culture.

This report breaks down what it would actually cost to build such a game, what kind of team is required, and how Steel City Interactive (SCI)—developers of Undisputed—stacks up against that standard.


2️⃣ Total Estimated Budgets (Across Scales)

ScaleDev Cost (Est.)Marketing + ContingencyTotal
Indie-Plus Simulation (Limited licenses)$6 – $15 M$2 – $6 M$8 – $21 M
AA Boxing Simulation (Mid-sized roster, solid online)$18 – $45 M$6 – $15 M$24 – $60 M
AAA Boxing Simulation (Full realism & 200+ licenses)$55 – $140 M$25 – $70 M$80 – $210 M

3️⃣ Cost Breakdown by Category

๐Ÿงพ Licensing (Boxers, Coaches, Promoters, Belts)

CategoryIndie-PlusAAAAA
Boxers$0.4 – $1.6 M$2.4 – $9.6 M$8.8 – $37.5 M
Coaches$50 – 200 K$150 – 500 K$400 K – $1.5 M
Promoters/Managers$50 – 150 K$150 – 400 K$300 K – $1.0 M
Belts (WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO)$150 – 400 K$400 K – $1.0 M$1.0 – $2.5 M
Venues$50 – 200 K$150 – 600 K$500 K – $2.0 M
Licensing Total$0.7 – $2.6 M$3.2 – $12.1 M$11 – $44.5 M

Likeness rights in boxing are fragmented. Each boxer, trainer, or sanctioning body negotiates independently—making authenticity extremely expensive.


๐ŸŽฅ Motion Capture & Voice Performance

CategoryIndie-PlusAAAAA
Mocap Stage & Operators$0.2 – 0.6 M$0.6 – 1.8 M$1.5 – 4.0 M
Actors / Stunt Team$0.25 – 0.6 M$0.6 – 1.6 M$1.2 – 3.0 M
VO & Commentary$0.15 – 0.4 M$0.4 – 1.0 M$1.0 – 2.5 M
Total$0.6 – 1.6 M$1.6 – 4.4 M$3.7 – 9.5 M

๐Ÿง‘‍๐Ÿ’ป Staff Salaries & Development Team (2.5 – 3 Years)

ScaleAvg. Team SizeAnnual Salary Load3-Year Cost
Indie-Plus15 – 25$2.6 – 4.8 M$5.2 – 14.4 M
AA35 – 60$6.5 – 11.5 M$13 – 34.5 M
AAA80 – 150+$14 – 28 M$28 – 84 M

๐Ÿงช QA, Research & Compliance

AreaEst. Cost
QA Testing$0.6 – 6.0 M
Compliance / Ratings$50 K – 300 K
Research & Data Testing$100 K – 600 K

๐Ÿ“ฃ Marketing, PR, and Launch Costs

ScaleCost Range
Indie$1 – 3 M
AA$3 – 8 M
AAA$10 – 30 M

4️⃣ The Full Developer Blueprint (Department by Department)

⚙️ Core Engineering & Technical

12 – 60 devs across gameplay, AI, physics, tools, graphics, netcode, and DevOps.

๐ŸŽจ Art & Animation

14 – 68 artists across character, environment, lighting, mocap cleanup, crowd, and VFX.

๐Ÿง  Design Department

8 – 19 designers handling combat logic, AI tendencies, career structure, and UX.

๐ŸŽง Audio Department

5 – 10 sound engineers, dialogue editors, and composers.

๐ŸŽฅ Mocap & Cinematics

13 – 37 capture crew members (actors, techs, coordinators).

๐Ÿง Production & QA

10 – 45 staff for scheduling, testing, and live ops.

๐Ÿ’ผ Business & Marketing

6 – 11 staff for licensing, PR, community, and legal/finance.


๐Ÿงฉ Ideal Staffing Totals

ScaleTotal HeadcountDurationNotes
Indie-Plus65–752.5 yrsLean, fewer licenses
AA135–1553 yrsComparable to Undisputed’s ambition
AAA270–3103–3.5 yrsEquivalent to EA Fight Night scale

5️⃣ Ratio of Departments (Ideal)

Department% of Team
Engineering & Technical30–35%
Art & Animation25–30%
Design10%
Audio5%
Production & QA15–20%
Business & Marketing5–8%

6️⃣ How Steel City Interactive (SCI) Compares

๐Ÿ“Š Verified Facts

  • Employee count: ~70 staff (from official careers.steelcityinteractive.co.uk and PitchBook)

  • Size category: Mid-tier indie studio

  • Target scale: AA ambition with an indie-sized team

  • Engine: Unreal Engine

  • Project: Undisputed (boxing sim)


✅ Roles SCI Likely Has

DepartmentCore Positions Likely Filled
EngineeringGameplay programmers, physics, networking, tools
ArtCharacter/environment artists, animators, tech artists
Design1–2 designers (systems + gameplay)
AudioBasic sound and commentary staff
Production1–2 producers, QA testers
Marketing/CommunityCommunity manager, PR, media
BusinessOwner/CEO (Ash Habib), management, some licensing coordination

❌ Roles Missing or Understaffed

Missing DepartmentMissing Roles
AI DesignAdaptive AI behavior and style specialists
Cinematic TeamNo dedicated cinematic animators, lighting artists
Mocap SupervisionNo in-house mocap director, minimal stunt coordination
Live OpsNo full live-ops support team
Localization QALikely outsourced or missing
VFX TeamUnderstaffed, limited punch FX and sweat shaders
Audio Post / VO DirectionPartial or external
Legal & LicensingLikely external counsel only
Extended Production HierarchyFew producers for scope of work
Career/Systems DesignersMinimal specialization

๐Ÿ“‰ Estimated Staffing Gap

CategoryIdeal AA GameSCI ActualMissing
Total Staff135–155~7065–85 missing
Core Engineering3015–20–10
Art & Animation3015–15
Design113–4–7
Audio62–4
Production/QA208–10–10
Biz/Marketing74–3
Mocap & Cinematics214–5–15
Total Understaffed / Missing~75 roles

7️⃣ What This Means for Undisputed

  • SCI has passion, but their staffing footprint fits a small indie team trying to deliver an AA or early-AAA product.

  • They appear to lack deep AI engineers, cinematic specialists, and full-time mocap infrastructure—key elements required for realism.

  • Their “missing 60–80 roles” means a lack of redundancy and expertise in crucial subsystems (animation blending, referee logic, adaptive defense AI, fatigue systems, etc.).

  • Many essential components are either outsourced, simplified, or omitted entirely, explaining the stripped-down features and inconsistent realism in Undisputed’s early access build.


8️⃣ Key Takeaways

ObservationImpact
SCI’s current size (~70 staff)Cannot match AA/AAA realism ambitions alone
Lack of specialized rolesLimits authenticity (AI, physics, cinematics)
Fragmented boxing licensesExpensive and time-consuming, eats budget quickly
Realistic sim requires 120+ devs minimumOtherwise, corners must be cut
Outsourcing helps, but lacks cohesionBoxing needs internal consistency for realism
Full realism demands more money, time, and staffRoughly $40–60 M minimum for credible AA realism

9️⃣ Conclusion — The Real Price of Authentic Boxing

Building the world’s most realistic boxing game isn’t just about heart or hype.
It’s about structure, resources, and specialists—from AI engineers who understand strategy and tendencies to animators who capture fatigue, rhythm, and real-world physics.

Steel City Interactive deserves credit for trying, but the reality is that their team size (≈70) and budget limits make it impossible to deliver the true simulation boxing fans were promised.

To achieve the authenticity boxing deserves, a developer would need:

  • 130+ developers,

  • $40–60 million in funding minimum, and

  • A clear focus on realism over quantity of names.

Until that balance exists, fans will continue to ask the same question:

“Why doesn’t any studio make a real boxing game anymore?”

No Excuses Left: How Modern Technology Can—and Should—Fully Recreate the Realism of Boxing in Video Games

 

“We Can Build What We Can See”: An Investigative Case for Fully-Authentic Boxing Games—No Excuses Left

Executive Summary

The claim that “videogames can’t replicate real boxing” is no longer credible. The technologies, workflows, and talent to deliver deep, style-accurate, adaptive boxing already exist across film VFX, other AAA sports titles, modern animation systems, and academic research. When studios say can’t, they almost always mean won’t—because of budget priorities, pipeline choices, licensing approaches, or a preference for broader, cheaper design. This article documents how authenticity can be built today, identifies the common blockers (and how to remove them), and outlines a practical, staged roadmap a studio of any size can execute.


Part I — The Technology Is Here (and Proven)

1) Animation at the Level of Real Boxers

  • Motion Matching & ML Controllers

    • Systems like motion matching (frame-to-frame best-fit pose selection) and ML locomotion controllers already power nuanced movement in several AAA games.

    • For boxing, pair a curated library of ring-specific locomotion (stutter steps, pivots, bounce, stalking), defensive layers (head movement, shoulder rolls), and punch families with motion matching to select the right micro-transition at tempo.

  • Parametric & Layered Animation

    • Modern engines support additive layers (upper-body punches over footwork), pose warping, and IK to fine-tune reach and angle in real time.

    • Style sliders (stance width, guard height, torso lean, cadence) can drive blend spaces to create per-boxer gait and rhythm without re-authoring every clip.

  • Style Transfer for Movement

    • Machine-learning style transfer can map a given boxer’s cadence and timing onto generic locomotion. Use carefully (supervised and artist-guided) to avoid uncanny outcomes, but it’s more than viable for ring movement “feel.”

2) Punches, Defense, and Contact That Read as Real

  • Ballistic & Kinematic Blends

    • Start each strike kinematic (track the authored pose), blend to physics post-impact for micro-reactions, glove compression, and believable follow-through.

  • Hit-Zone Atlases & Reaction Matrices

    • Define a damage/critical-zone map (chin, temple, liver, solar plexus, ribs) with directional modifiers.

    • Reactions: snapback, fold, step-outs, “hurt idles,” clinch bias—triggered by where + when a punch lands in the stance cycle.

  • Guard Physics & Collisions

    • Gloves/forearms should collide with a deformable guard volume; not every punch “threads the needle.” Misses and partial blocks are information—feed them to the AI.

3) AI That Boxes, Not Just Swings

  • Tendency & Trait Systems

    • Represent style with tendencies (ring control, counter bias, body-work rate), traits (chin, gas tank, composure), and capabilities (hand speed, snap, timing).

    • A blackboard (shared memory) tracks opponent habits, stamina, and openings across rounds; behaviors shift accordingly.

  • Decision Architectures (BT/GOAP/RL)

    • Behavior Trees or GOAP for short-term choices; lightweight RL or bandit algorithms to adapt mid-fight (e.g., “jab to body draws right elbow—go upstairs next sequence”).

  • Corner Brain & Between-Rounds Adjustments

    • Use round breaks to bake in adaptation: new priorities, pacing tweaks, target switching. Show this via coach cues and visible ring-craft changes.

4) Systems for “Any Boxer”—Alive, Retired, Disabled, or Deceased

  • Animation Libraries + Parameter Packs

    • Build base libraries (orthodox/southpaw variants, height/reach brackets, classic/modern movement), then apply parameter packs to emulate named styles ethically and legally.

  • Photogrammetry & Head Scans (Optional but Feasible)

    • With estate or rights holder approvals, capture likeness. Absent that, deliver style-equivalent archetypes with sliders and editor tools.

  • Accessibility & Adaptive Input

    • “Disabled boxers” representation isn’t a blocker: input abstraction, camera aids, pacing options, and UI accessibility are standardizable features.

Bottom line: Every component required for deep, authentic boxing is already in use somewhere in games, film, or sports tech. Integrating them for boxing is an engineering and production task—not a research moonshot.


Part II — Why Studios Say “Can’t” (and What That Really Means)

  1. Budget & Schedule

    • Authenticity requires front-loaded investment: larger mocap sets, data engineering, and tools. Many teams default to cheaper canned animations and simplified AI to hit dates.

    • Fix: Stage the spend with a feature ladder (see Roadmap), ship with core authenticity, then scale breadth.

  2. Pipeline Debt

    • Legacy animation graphs, no build-time tools for style tuning, weak telemetry. Once a rigid pipeline ships, retrofitting depth becomes costly.

    • Fix: Invest in editor tooling (style sliders, punch chain editors, tendency dashboards) early.

  3. Licensing & Legal Risk Aversion

    • Likeness rights, estates, approvals can slow content throughput.

    • Fix: Separate style systems from likeness. Release archetypes that play like recognizable styles even when the face/name isn’t licensed.

  4. Design Philosophy & Market Myths

    • The belief that “realism doesn’t sell” pushes teams toward hybrid/arcade shortcuts. The data from other sports contradicts this—options and depth retain players.

    • Fix: Mode-tiering (more on this below). Don’t remove depth; offer on-ramps.

  5. Online Concerns

    • Desync fear, deterministic rollback constraints, and net budget drive simplified physics.

    • Fix: Use deterministic state + late collision resolve, selective rollback windows, and authoritative server validation for contacts and clinches.


Part III — The Authentic Boxing Feature Map (What “No Excuses” Looks Like)

A. Movement & Ring Craft

  • Style sliders: stance width, bounce amplitude, pivot bias, pressure vs. evade.

  • Ring position IQ: cut-off logic, exit lanes, ropes usage.

  • Foot planting states for power transfer, emergency resets after whiffs.

B. Punch System

  • Families: jabs (probes, step-ins, up-jabs), crosses, hooks (short/long), uppercuts, shovel-hooks.

  • Contextual variants: punch changes with distance, angle, and foot state.

  • Chain Editor: author sequences (e.g., 1-2-Liver), tempo locks, cancel windows.

C. Defense & Clinch

  • Head movement mapped to safe/unsafe windows.

  • Parry, catch, brush, shoulder roll—with stamina and risk.

  • Clinch layer: entry cues (hurt, pressure), referee breaks, inside work.

D. Damage, Stamina, and Recovery

  • Zone-specific effects (temple daze, liver fold).

  • Stamina tied to footwork tempo, whiff load, and clinch frequency.

  • Between-round recovery that respects cut damage and body taxation.

E. AI & Adaptivity

  • Per-boxer tendencies + live opponent modeling.

  • Round-over plan shifts.

  • Corner advice drives visible adjustments.

F. Officiating & Presentation

  • Referee presence impacts enforcement (holding, rabbit punches).

  • Judges with configurable criteria weightings (clean punching, defense, ring generalship, effect).

  • Broadcast cameras that respect footwork and range—see the boxing.

G. Options, Not One-Size-Fits-All

  • Simulation Mode (full rules, strict stamina/damage).

  • Standard Mode (moderated realism, onboarding aids).

  • Creator Suite to share style/tendency presets; sliders export/import.


Part IV — The Build: From Zero to Authentic in 12–18 Months (Staged Roadmap)

Phase 0 (Weeks 0–6): Foundations

  • Choose motion matching or hybrid animation graph; design blend-spaces for ring movement and upper-body layers.

  • Define tendency schema (JSON/ScriptableObjects/DataTables).

  • Build punch chain editor & style slider panel (internal tools first).

Phase 1 (Months 2–6): Core Loop

  • Implement planting states, distance gates, and defensive layers.

  • Ship MVP stamina/damage models tied to zone atlas.

  • Stand up referee prototype (warnings, breaks).

  • Internal telemetry for whiff rates, body/head mix, ring control.

Phase 2 (Months 6–10): AI Adaptivity + Presentation

  • Blackboard + behavior trees; add between-round re-planning.

  • Camera package for ring-craft readability; commentary hook points.

  • Netcode pass for deterministic state + impact validation.

Phase 3 (Months 10–14): Depth & Authenticity Pass

  • Expand punch families; author 6–10 archetype style packs.

  • Clinch refinement; judges tuning via scoring profiles.

  • Accessibility toggles; onboarding drills.

Phase 4 (Months 14–18): Content & Polishing

  • Additional style archetypes, corner personalities, venue variants.

  • Modest live-ops plan: balance updates, weekly featured archetypes.

  • Creator Suite export/import and shareable sliders.

Key principle: Don’t ship breadth over depth. Ship enough boxers whose styles are unmistakable, then scale roster with quality intact.


Part V — Budgets, Team, and Practicalities

  • Team Shape (lean core)

    • Tech Animation (2–3), Gameplay/AI (4–6), Tools (2), Netcode (1–2), Systems Design (1–2), Content Animators (4–6), Audio/UX (2–3), PM/QA (3–5).

  • Capture Strategy

    • Hybrid: small mocap stage for ring locomotion and defensive loops; targeted hand-crafted punch sets; occasional pro talent capture for marquee styles.

  • Risk Controls

    • Weekly style reviews with boxing-literate advisors; in-engine ring tests for every animation addition; automated telemetry dashboards.


Part VI — Ethical & Legal Notes (Representing Legends, Elders, and Everyone)

  • Likeness vs. Style: Style can be represented without facial likeness if rights are unavailable; be transparent about archetypes.

  • Fair Representation: Avoid caricature—ground each pack in real mechanics (stance, rhythm, punch selection, defense).

  • Accessibility: Provide options so more people can play boxing well—doesn’t dilute realism; it grows the community.


Part VII — Audit Rubric: “Are You Serious About Boxing?”

Use this checklist before claiming “simulation”:

Movement & Ring Craft

  • Distinct locomotion for pressure, out-fighter, counter-puncher, switch-hitter

  • Pivot logic and cut-off AI

  • Stance width/tempo sliders change gameplay, not just visuals

Punch & Defense

  • Contextual punch variants by range/angle/plant

  • Guard collisions with partials & grazes

  • Head movement tied to realistic risk windows

Damage & Stamina

  • Zone-specific effects (body vs. head)

  • Whiff and footwork taxation modeled

  • Recovery depends on round pacing and damage taken

AI & Adaptivity

  • Per-boxer tendencies and mid-fight adjustments

  • Corner advice changes visible behavior next round

Officiating & Scoring

  • Referee systems affect play

  • Judges with tunable criteria profiles

Player Options

  • Simulation and Standard modes

  • Exportable sliders/style presets

If you can’t tick these, you’re not blocked by technology—you’re blocked by decisions.


Part VIII — Rebutting the Usual Excuses

  1. “It’s too expensive.”
    Rebuttal: Staging depth beats reskin breadth. Tools amortize costs—style sliders and chain editors multiply output per animator.

  2. “It won’t sell.”
    Rebuttal: Depth plus options is the industry pattern for long-tail engagement. Offer modes—don’t delete authenticity.

  3. “Online can’t handle it.”
    Rebuttal: Deterministic state with selective rollback and authoritative impact checks is standard in modern competitive titles.

  4. “Legends are complicated.”
    Rebuttal: Separate style from likeness. Secure rights where possible; where not, ship archetypes and let community creators contribute within clear guidelines.


Part IX — A Compact Action Plan for Studios

90 Days

  • Lock animation architecture (motion matching or hybrid).

  • Ship internal tools: Style Slider, Punch Chain Editor, Tendency Dashboard.

  • Implement zone atlas + basic stamina/damage loop.

180 Days

  • AI blackboard + between-round plans.

  • Referee v1, judges v1, clinch v1.

  • Launch playtest with 4 archetype packs (pressure, out-fighter, counter, switch).

12 Months

  • Netcode solidification; broadcast camera pass.

  • Ten+ archetypes, creator suite, balanced Simulation/Standard modes.

18 Months

  • Scale styles, venues, commentary hooks; live-ops cadence focused on boxing depth, not cosmetic churn.


Conclusion: No More “Can’t”

We live in an era where games replicate human nuance across genres daily. Boxing deserves the same rigor. The claim that a studio can’t deliver deep styles, adaptive AI, referee logic, clinching, and ring-craft is out of date. With the right pipeline and priorities, teams can build what fans see in real rings—including respectful representations of boxers across eras and circumstances.

The technology exists. The workflows are known. The talent is out there.
There is no excuse not to give fans a deep, faithful representation of the sport of boxing.

Are “Casuals” the Majority on PC & Console Sports Games, Including Boxing?



Are “Casuals” the Majority on PC & Console Sports Games, Including Boxing?

A Deep Investigation into Gaming Demographics, Data, and Developer Misunderstanding


 Defining the Arena — PC & Console Only

Let’s be clear from the start: this investigation focuses only on PC and console gaming, not mobile.
Mobile skews statistics heavily toward the “casual” player — people who play word puzzles or idle clickers on their phone a few minutes a day. Those numbers don’t represent the people paying $60–$70 annually for Madden, NBA 2K, EA Sports FC, or Undisputed.

In the PC/console ecosystem, sports gamers are among the most dedicated. They purchase annually, they invest hundreds of hours into career and ranked modes, and they shape online discourse through competition, critique, and community-driven analysis.


 What the Data Actually Says

  • ESA 2024 Report:
    The average gamer is 36 years old with around 17 years of gaming experience. These are not “newbies” or kids just dabbling in casual fun — they are experienced, invested players.

  • Circana/NPD Sales Rankings:
    Year after year, titles like NBA 2K, Madden, and EA FC dominate the top 10 best-selling games across all platforms. These are not “casual” titles. They succeed through long-term engagement and annual retention.

  • Newzoo Gamer Personas:
    The “casual vs. hardcore” binary is obsolete. Instead, engagement is now measured by playtime, spending, and community activity. Sports titles lead in all three categories for console players.

This means that, statistically, the core audience drives both revenue and longevity on PC and console — not the “casual” player.


 Boxing as the Test Case — Niche, but Deep

Unlike basketball or football, boxing games don’t have annual releases.
The fan base is smaller, but far more passionate. Players want authentic movement, simulation-level control, realistic stamina and damage modeling, and AI that feels human.

That’s why the conversation around Undisputed (developed by Steel City Interactive) has been so heated. It’s not just about graphics or roster size — it’s about respecting the simulation foundation that boxing deserves.


 The “5%” Comment — A Telling Moment

In TheKingJuice YouTube interview titled “Being Honest About Undisputed Boxing Game (ESBC) With Owner Ash Habib,”
at the 15:03 mark, Steel City Interactive’s CEO Ash Habib states that hardcore boxing fans make up roughly “5%” of the game’s audience.

This statement became infamous among fans and industry observers — not because of its precision, but because of what it represents:
a dismissive framing of the very group that built the foundation of the game’s early success.

Why it’s problematic:

  1. Niche sports depend on core fans.
    In boxing, the hardcore community is small but financially and culturally essential. They evangelize, create content, and shape perception.

  2. Retention metrics are misleading.
    Casuals may inflate launch-week numbers but vanish within weeks. The 5% who remain become the lifeblood of updates, feedback, and sales sustainability.

  3. Simulation credibility matters.
    If you market a game as the “most authentic boxing experience,” you can’t later downplay the audience that demands that authenticity.


 Modern Sports Gamers vs. the Past

Today’s players are older, more analytical, and more vocal.
They grew up with Fight Night Champion, Madden 05, NBA 2K11 — eras when gameplay depth and individuality mattered more than cosmetics or shortcuts.

Unlike casual mobile audiences, modern PC/console sports fans expect layers:

  • Sliders for realism.

  • Authentic tendencies per athlete.

  • Referees, fouls, injuries, and fatigue systems.

  • AI that adapts dynamically — not just stat buffs.

They are not “the past.” They are the standard-bearers of sports realism.


Why Developers & Publishers Misread the Data

Publishers often conflate “player base” with “engaged base.”
Just because millions download a free demo or play for 10 minutes doesn’t mean they represent your paying, loyal segment.

  • The casual influx may drive temporary metrics.

  • But the core — the ones investing hundreds of hours — determine whether your game has a future.

That’s especially true in boxing, where Undisputed had no competition for over a decade. The long-term players didn’t just want another boxing game — they wanted the definitive boxing simulation.


The Lesson: Respect the Core, Build the Bridge

A smart studio doesn’t ignore casuals — it builds on-ramps for them:
tutorials, simplified control presets, highlight modes, and social hooks.
But it never does so by erasing its foundation.

For PC and console sports games, the core isn’t 5% — it’s the engine that keeps the machine running.


Final Thought

Casual fans come and go. Hardcore fans build legacies.

When a developer publicly reduces their most passionate audience to a tiny fraction — as Ash Habib did in that TheKingJuice interview — it sends a message that authenticity no longer matters.
And in a sport built on authenticity, that’s a fatal misread.


Citation

  • TheKingJuice – “Being Honest About Undisputed Boxing Game (ESBC) With Owner Ash Habib”, 15:03 mark – Ash Habib states hardcore boxing fans make up about “5%” of the audience.


The Missing Votes: Investigating Steel City Interactive’s “10,000 Votes Across Platforms” Claim

 

The Missing Votes: Investigating Steel City Interactive’s “10,000 Votes Across Platforms” Claim


 Published: October 2025

Author: Poe — The Real Boxing Game Movement
#UndisputedBoxing #SteelCityInteractive #GamingTransparency #BoxingGames #CommunityTrust


Steel City Interactive claimed that over 10,000 votes were cast “across all platforms” in a poll deciding whether to reset Undisputed’s leaderboards. But where did those votes come from? This investigative breakdown exposes inconsistencies, missing data, and why the Discord community’s role raises even more questions.


A Poll That Raised More Questions Than It Answered

When Steel City Interactive (SCI)—developers of Undisputed: Championship Edition—announced that over 10,000 votes had been cast “across all platforms” regarding a major leaderboard reset, fans took notice.

SCI claimed that 85% of voters supported wiping online records ahead of the upcoming Championship Edition release. But as the dust settled, the community began asking:

“Where did these votes actually come from—and why won’t SCI show the numbers?”


The Official Narrative

On October 6th, 2025, Undisputed’s official X/Twitter account posted:

“Should we reset all online quick fight, ranked, and leaderboards records on Championship Edition release?
If we receive more than 5,000 votes across platforms, we shall implement the most requested change.”

By the time the poll closed, the Twitter count showed just 2,166 votes—far below the 5,000 threshold.

The next day, SCI declared:

“We have received over 10,000 votes across platforms, with 85% voting in favor of a grand record reset.”

Press outlets like Operation Sports and GameRant repeated this claim. But none verified or cited where those extra votes came from.


 The Transparency Problem

“Across all platforms” sounds inclusive—but without specifics, it’s a phrase built on vagueness. SCI offered no clarity on:

  • ๐ŸŸก Which platforms were included (Discord? Instagram? Steam? In-game?)

  • ๐ŸŸก Whether duplicate votes were filtered

  • ๐ŸŸก How votes were verified or tallied

No additional public polls or screenshots have surfaced. In fact, here’s what the investigation uncovered:

PlatformEvidence of PollVote CountVerification
Twitter/X✅ Verified official poll~2,166Publicly visible
Discord⚠️ None verifiedUnknownNo data
Instagram❌ None foundNoneNo story or post
Steam Hub❌ None foundNoneNo record
In-Game Survey❌ None reportedNoneNo confirmation

That leaves only one confirmed poll: the one on Twitter/X.


 The Discord Question: Token Inclusion or Genuine Engagement?

Pull Quote:
“Why should Discord votes suddenly matter if SCI often dismisses the Discord community’s feedback as unimportant?”

One of the most glaring contradictions is SCI’s relationship with its Discord community. For months, the development team has been criticized for being defensive, dismissive, or outright combative toward long-time Discord members offering feedback.

So it’s fair to ask:

  • Why should Discord votes now matter?

  • Were Discord users only included to inflate the numbers and justify a pre-determined decision?

Possible Explanation 1: Inflated Optics

If Discord “votes” were simply emoji reactions or informal tallies in chat channels, SCI could easily claim participation without verification. It’s a way to boost engagement stats without transparency.

Possible Explanation 2: Fan Interest Probe

Alternatively, this poll may have been less about resetting leaderboards and more about measuring remaining fan interest—a stealth test to gauge how many people still care about Undisputed after years of delays, controversy, and unmet promises.

If so, the poll’s purpose wasn’t to listen—it was to measure survival.


 Why Transparency Matters

Polls like these aren’t harmless. They directly influence community trust and determine how player progress is handled.

For a studio already accused of downplaying realism, sidelining simulation fans, and rewriting its early promises, failing to provide transparent data only deepens skepticism.

Transparency Checklist SCI Could’ve Followed:

  1. ๐Ÿ“ธ Post screenshots of every poll on every platform.

  2. ๐Ÿ“Š Share per-platform totals and percentages.

  3. ๐Ÿ” Verify unique participants across platforms.

  4. ๐Ÿงพ Release a short transparency summary with the final decision.

Without these, the “10,000 votes” claim remains an unverifiable marketing number, not a democratic result.


 Community Reactions: From Skepticism to Sarcasm

Fans quickly called it out:

“Twitter had 2k votes. Where’s the other 8k?”
“If Discord doesn’t matter, how does it suddenly count now?”
“Why can’t they show screenshots from each platform?”

Across Reddit, X, and Discord itself, the tone turned half-serious, half-satirical, dubbing it “The Ghost Poll”—a symbolic reminder of SCI’s selective transparency.


 Beyond the Numbers: Fan Trust and Developer Accountability

This isn’t just about a leaderboard reset—it’s a litmus test for SCI’s honesty.

For a studio that once promised to deliver the most authentic boxing simulation ever, credibility has become its most damaged attribute.

When a company refuses to show evidence for community votes while dismissing fan feedback, it’s not simply miscommunication—it’s a trust crisis disguised as a poll result.


 Conclusion: Votes Without Visibility

The “10,000 votes across platforms” claim remains an impressive-sounding number—but until SCI shows receipts, it’s only that: a number.

Whether a case of poor communication or a marketing strategy designed to gauge survival interest, the outcome is the same: the community feels deceived.

Final Pull Quote:
“In boxing, numbers only matter when they’re real—and the same goes for community trust.”

Until SCI provides a transparent breakdown of where each vote came from, fans are justified in treating this claim as unverified and inflated. The company’s credibility depends on what it does next: show the proof or own the spin.


 Author’s Note

This investigation was compiled using public records, social media posts, and archived developer communications as of October 2025.
If SCI releases verifiable breakdowns or data, this article will be updated to reflect those details.



Sunday, October 12, 2025

The Reality Check: Why Casual Fans Are Holding Boxing Games Back — and Why Undisputed 2 Might Not Repeat Its Success


1. The Divide That Defines the Genre

The boxing video game world has a split personality.
On one side are casual fans, drawn to the sport’s spectacle — the knockouts, the names, the bright lights. They want games that are flashy, forgiving, and quick to play.
On the other side are hardcore boxing and gaming fans, who live and breathe the sport’s rhythm — footwork, feints, stamina, defense, ring IQ, and adaptability.

The tension between those two groups defines everything wrong with modern boxing games.

Instead of being given options to coexist — a simulation mode for purists and an arcade mode for newcomers — both sides are forced into a single hybrid system, one that leans far more toward arcade than authenticity.

The result?
Nobody’s fully satisfied.


2. How Undisputed Became the Cautionary Tale

When Undisputed first hit early access, fans thought it would be the rebirth of boxing games — the long-awaited return of realism that Fight Night abandoned years ago.

But after years in development and promises of deep simulation, what players got was a product that looked like boxing yet felt like something else.

The problems were everywhere:

  • Clunky, lag-filled online play with broken hit detection.

  • Poor performance and desync issues even on high-end PCs.

  • Animation and stamina systems stripped down over time.

  • AI that didn’t adapt or replicate real-world boxer styles.

  • DLC boxers and cosmetic packs pushed before core bugs were fixed.

For many, it wasn’t just disappointment — it was betrayal. The same fans who helped build Undisputed through early access, surveys, and beta feedback were left wondering how something that once felt so promising ended up this broken.

And yet, the defenders — the casual crowd — kept saying:

“You just have to play it the way it’s meant to be played.”

But that line doesn’t fix what’s broken.
It’s not a player’s job to pretend realism exists. It’s the developer’s job to build realism that works.


3. The Strange Irony: Casual Fans Fighting Against Options

Here’s where things get bizarre.
You’d think hardcore fans — the ones obsessed with realism — would be the ones demanding one rigid version of the game.
But in reality, it’s the casual fans who resist options the most.

They don’t want simulation sliders.
They don’t want realism toggles.
They don’t want separate gameplay styles.

They want everyone to play their way — fast, forgiving, and shallow — even if it kills replay value.

It’s sad because the hardcore community is the one begging for inclusivity:

“Give us both — a Simulation Mode and an Arcade Mode. Let everyone enjoy it how they want.”

That’s how NBA 2K, FIFA, and MLB The Show thrive. They give players the freedom to tailor the experience.
But boxing, somehow, keeps being forced into one box — and it’s usually the wrong one.


4. The True Size of Each Fan Base

When you analyze the landscape objectively, here’s what it looks like:

Fan TypeApprox. Player ShareRetention TrendCore Motivation
Casual Players60–70% at launchDrop off after 2–4 weeksFast fun, visuals, online brawls
Hardcore Fans30–40% initiallyActive for months or yearsRealism, mechanics, longevity

At first glance, casual fans appear to be the majority. They flood YouTube comments and Twitter threads, praising “fun” gameplay and boxer DLCs.
But within a few months, those players move on — leaving behind the small, dedicated base that actually sustains the game.

Over time, that 30–40 % becomes the majority of the active community, because they’re the ones still there, testing, modding, and providing feedback.

So, while casuals bring short-term hype, hardcore fans bring long-term stability.


5. Where This Data Comes From

To be clear — no official player demographics exist for Undisputed.
These ratios come from publicly observable data and industry pattern analysis:

  • Steam Charts & SteamDB: Showed sharp drops after launch, a sign of a casual-dominated release.

  • Reddit & Discord Threads: Early casual noise, but sustained realism-focused discussion afterward.

  • YouTube Analytics: Channels that break down realism and AI see steady growth; “quick fight” channels fizzle.

  • Sports-Game Benchmarks: NBA 2K, FIFA, and WWE 2K rely on realism-driven communities for long-term success.

It’s not speculative — it’s pattern-based logic repeated across the entire sports gaming industry.


6. The Broken Trust That Undisputed 2 Inherits

When a franchise’s first installment leaves a sour taste, the sequel doesn’t start from zero — it starts in debt.

Undisputed 2 faces that reality head-on.
For five years, fans supported, tested, and waited, only to watch features get removed, gameplay simplified, and authenticity diluted.

Now, even if a sequel is announced, most players won’t rush in blindly.
They’ll wait.
They’ll ask:

“Will it actually work this time?”
“Will they finally bring back realism?”
“Will they fix what they ignored for years?”

That’s not hype — that’s hesitation.


7. Why Undisputed 2 Might Struggle to Repeat Initial Success

⚠️ The Challenges Ahead

IssueWhy It HurtsExample
Lost TrustFans won’t pre-order again“Broken for five years” reputation
Stripped FeaturesExpectations now higherClinching, referee logic, adaptive AI must return
Monetization FatigueDLC before fixes killed goodwillPaywalls vs. gameplay depth
Community BurnoutHardcore fans feel ignoredFewer willing to give feedback again
Casual FatigueEven casuals noticed shallownessQuick fun isn’t enough a second time

Unless SCI rebuilds trust from the ground up — transparency, open testing, consistent updates — Undisputed 2 will not replicate the magic of the first game’s announcement.

The first time, fans were curious.
The second time, they’ll be cautious.


8. The Blueprint for Redemption

If SCI wants to recover, they must:

  1. Acknowledge the past — publicly and honestly.

  2. Fix the foundation first — hit detection, stamina, AI, and movement before DLC.

  3. Rebuild referee and realism systems — features that make boxing a sport, not a brawler.

  4. Separate gameplay modes — let Simulation and Arcade coexist instead of competing.

  5. Market with humility, not hype — show proof, not promises.

Do that, and Undisputed 2 could surprise everyone.
Ignore it, and the franchise might collapse before it ever finds its true audience.


9. What History Suggests

Every sports franchise that recovered from a broken first entry did so by owning its mistakes and building trust:

  • WWE 2K rebounded after the disastrous 2K20 by focusing on simulation realism and creative freedom.

  • No Man’s Sky became a redemption story through transparency and updates, not silence.

If Undisputed 2 wants to stand alongside those stories, it must follow that same path — humility, hard work, and honesty.


10. Final Verdict

Can Undisputed 2 match or surpass the success of the first Undisputed?
Possibly — but only if SCI rebuilds everything that was lost.

  • Initial sales: It might draw similar launch hype due to curiosity and name recognition.

  • Retention: Without visible fixes, it will drop even faster.

  • Legacy: If it fails again, the franchise’s reputation could be permanently damaged.

Because here’s the truth:

Casual fans create launch spikes.
Hardcore fans build legacies.

The future of boxing games depends on which group SCI decides to listen to.

Boxing doesn’t need another flashy “hybrid.”
It needs a faithful simulation with options — something that finally respects the sport and the fans who kept believing.

Only then can Undisputed 2 truly earn its name.

The Sad Story of Fans Still Asking for More Boxers in a Broken Game

 The Sad Story of Fans Still Asking for More Boxers in a Broken Game

(A Reflection on Undisputed and the Misplaced Hope of Quantity Over Quality)


1. The Illusion of Content as Progress

It’s a tragic loop in modern sports gaming: the game is fundamentally broken, yet fans are still begging for more boxers. They want new names, new DLC packs, and “updates,” hoping it will fix a deeper problem that can’t be patched by roster additions. Undisputed isn’t short on boxers — it’s short on authenticity, polish, and respect for the sport.
The addition of new fighters to a flawed core system doesn’t elevate the experience; it camouflages the cracks. It’s like repainting a collapsing house. You can’t keep stacking new boxers on top of bad physics, broken AI, and poor synchronization and expect the game to suddenly feel complete.


2. The Broken Foundation

The foundation of Undisputed is crumbling — plagued by bugs, lag, desync issues, broken punch registration, stamina inconsistencies, and animation glitches. Every major system that should define boxing gameplay feels disconnected.
The problem isn’t a lack of fighters — it’s that none of them feel right. They don’t move, react, or fight like their real-life counterparts. You can’t recognize a boxer by their rhythm, footwork, or combinations. They all blend together in a blur of recycled animations and surface-level differences.

This destroys the purpose of having a large roster. If every boxer feels like a reskin, then new additions are just new faces on the same broken puppet.


3. Misrepresentation and Lost Identity

When fans beg for more names, they unknowingly contribute to the misrepresentation of boxers themselves.
Boxing legends like Ali, Tyson, and Lomachenko didn’t build their legacies on stats — they built them on style. Their individuality, tendencies, and mannerisms defined them. In Undisputed, these are stripped away.
A boxer’s signature style — their defensive rhythm, offensive pressure, tactical intelligence — is gone, replaced by template logic. Fans aren’t getting “Ali” or “Canelo”; they’re getting avatars wearing their skins, moving like any other character.

This isn’t honoring boxing; it’s hollow branding.


4. The Casual Distraction Cycle

There’s a sad pattern forming: the moment the community starts questioning the lack of realism or the game’s technical issues, new boxers are announced. It’s the same tactic mobile games use — “look over here, not over there.”
The fanbase becomes divided between those who crave realism and those who are content collecting names. The company feeds the latter group because they’re easier to please, even if it means ignoring the broken core gameplay.

But this cycle destroys innovation. As long as fans celebrate every new roster drop while ignoring the gameplay flaws, the developers never have to improve the systems that matter.


5. A Call for Real Priorities

Adding more boxers to a broken boxing game is like adding cars to a racing game with no handling physics. The quantity means nothing without quality.
Fans should be demanding fixes, better AI, adaptive styles, and the realism that was originally promised. The sport of boxing deserves precision, not placeholders.

Developers should focus on:

  • Boxer authenticity (real tendencies, footwork, mannerisms)

  • Referee and rule enforcement

  • AI adaptivity and ring IQ

  • Bug and desync resolution

  • Physics consistency and stamina realism

Until those pillars are rebuilt, adding new fighters is nothing more than painting over rust.


6. The Reality of Misguided Support

The saddest part is watching passionate fans unknowingly work against the very realism they want. By hyping new boxer releases instead of demanding accountability, they validate the developer’s shortcuts.
It’s not hate — it’s heartbreak. Because deep down, every true boxing fan knows what the sport looks and feels like when done right. They know that what’s being sold now is not boxing, it’s branding.


Final Thought

Fans shouldn’t have to beg for realism in a game that promised it. The tragedy of Undisputed isn’t just in its bugs — it’s in the way fans are conditioned to accept them as normal.
Until the foundation is fixed, more boxers only mean more hollow shells in a game that forgot what it was supposed to represent: the art, science, and individuality of boxing.


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The Plastic Era of Boxing Games — When Digital Boxers Became Action Figures with Names



1. The Death of Authentic Representation

Modern boxing video games have drifted far from the sport they claim to celebrate. What we’re seeing now are not tributes to the craft of boxing but digital impostors — hollow avatars wearing the names of legends. Developers plaster recognizable faces over lifeless mechanics, confusing authenticity with visual likeness. The tragedy is that these games sell themselves as simulations of “the sweet science,” yet beneath the surface, they’re stripped of intelligence, rhythm, and emotional realism.

Ali doesn’t float. Tyson doesn’t stalk with predatory timing. Canelo doesn’t read and adapt. These digital recreations look familiar but feel alien — boxed-in action figures performing generic scripts. The result? A sport known for its individuality reduced to a slideshow of reskinned puppets.


2. Lack of Styles, Tendencies, and Adaptivity

Boxing is chess with gloves. Every boxer has tendencies — how they probe, react, and adjust when pressure mounts. But in most modern titles, this vital DNA is missing. There’s no adaptive AI, no rhythm of thought, no evolution mid-fight. Once you decode the simple loops of your digital opponent, every match becomes predictable.

The absence of adaptive intelligence destroys replay value. Instead of opponents who learn your patterns and counter your habits, you fight glorified sparring dummies. True boxing is about solving puzzles in motion — feinting, adjusting tempo, setting traps. Yet these games treat every boxer like they share one brain, one rhythm, one algorithm.

It’s not simulation — it’s repetition.


3. No Mannerisms, No Soul

Mannerisms breathe life into boxers. Their pre-fight bounce, their shoulder roll, how they circle the ring, how they recover after missing a shot — these are visual fingerprints that define their personality. When stripped away, all that’s left are mannequins with gloves.

Other sports titles like NBA 2K or FIFA capture individuality through emotion and animation depth. In boxing, however, the silence between punches feels eerie. There’s no swagger, no fatigue, no spark of human expression. Boxers don’t exist — they’re merely puppets awaiting input commands.

When individuality dies, immersion follows. Fans stop caring about who they play because everyone fights the same way.


4. The Illusion of Content: Bare Minimum and Reskins

Developers often equate quantity with quality. They release endless boxer packs, alternate attires, and cosmetic DLCs, but the foundation never changes. A new face with the same movement template isn’t new content — it’s recycling. Players eventually notice that every addition feels like a different skin on the same action figure.

It’s not about how many boxers are on the roster; it’s about how many feel different. Without behavioral differences, every fight becomes a mirror match with new branding. It’s like watching a stage play where every actor reads the same script in a different costume.


5. The Cult of Casual Fans — The Silent Poison

The loudest defenders of this stagnation are the so-called loyal fans — the ones who parrot developer phrases like “the way the game was intended to be played.” That statement alone exposes how broken the foundation is. Boxing doesn’t come with an “intended” way to be played. It’s an art defined by creativity, reaction, and freedom within structure.

This idea of following an invisible “agreement” between players to make the game enjoyable is absurd. Imagine that in real boxing, two fighters silently agreeing to trade only certain punches or avoid clinching because it breaks the game’s rhythm. Unrealistic. The only entity that should enforce structure in a match is a referee, and even then, enforcement depends on that referee’s personality, leniency, or strictness.

When a community normalizes phrases like that, it shows that the core gameplay can’t sustain natural boxing behavior — it requires artificial restraint to function. And yet, these same fans beg for more names, as if new boxers will magically fix broken fundamentals. They don’t realize they’re asking for more paint on a cracked wall.

These “cult-like” followers may mean well, but they’re dangerous for the sport’s digital growth. Their blind loyalty enables complacency, ensuring the game never evolves beyond mediocrity. Real progress comes from critique, not compliance.


6. A Company Surviving on Microtransactions, Not Passion

Steel City Interactive (SCI) operates in a difficult market — a niche genre where realism costs time and innovation. To survive, they lean on DLCs and microtransactions. That’s business, yes. But business shouldn’t replace passion. Instead of perfecting mechanics, refining physics, or deepening boxer intelligence, SCI markets superficial content. They offer the illusion of evolution through quantity — “new names,” “new skins,” “new packs.” Yet nothing under the hood changes.

This approach is like selling yellow water as lemonade — something that looks right but lacks the flavor, depth, or substance of the real thing. It’s an insult to the intelligence of true boxing fans who crave depth and evolution. When profit overtakes passion, authenticity becomes the casualty.


7. Where Passion Should Live

Boxing deserves developers who understand the heart of the sport — those who can translate real movement, psychology, and emotion into code. Every boxer should have tendencies born from real study: how they set traps, how they fatigue, how they emotionally shift after getting rocked. AI should simulate pride, caution, and aggression, not just random punch outputs.

Technology today can replicate intelligence, rhythm, and nuance. Motion capture can immortalize the greats. Data-driven AI can create rivalries that feel alive. What’s missing isn’t the capability — it’s the will to care.

The industry’s problem isn’t budget or technology; it’s a lack of respect for the craft.


8. The Future Still Belongs to Realism

If the genre wants to survive, it must break free from this cult of complacency. Stop chasing surface-level content and start mastering the layers of human behavior that make boxing unpredictable and thrilling. Give players choices — simulation sliders, adaptive AI modes, referee personalities, fatigue realism, and individual style logic. Make every boxer more than a name — make them a living story in motion.

Realism doesn’t ruin fun; it defines it. When players feel a boxer’s thought process, tempo, and struggle, they connect emotionally. That’s what keeps games timeless.

Until then, boxing games will continue to look like boxing, sound like boxing — but never be boxing.


Final Thought:
Stop using the phrase “the way the game was intended to be played.” That’s not boxing — that’s choreography. If your game needs silent agreements to feel balanced, the simulation has failed. Real boxing thrives on unpredictability, individuality, and enforcement by referees, not by unspoken rules between players. Until developers remember that, they’ll keep serving yellow water and calling it lemonade.

Steel City Interactive Should Have Used a Slider System to Preserve Realism and Authentic Boxer Styles



Steel City Interactive Should Have Used a Slider System to Preserve Realism and Authentic Boxer Styles

Why Removing AI and Ignoring Sliders Destroyed the Soul of “Undisputed”

By Poe | The Real Boxing Game Movement
Because boxing deserves a simulation that respects the sport.


 The Promise That Started It All

When Undisputed (formerly ESBC) was first revealed, it felt like the rebirth of a dream.
Boxing fans around the world finally believed we were getting our version of NBA 2K, MLB The Show, or FIFA — a deep, evolving, and authentic sports simulation that represented the beauty and brutality of the sweet science.

Steel City Interactive (SCI) promised fans real physics, footwork, styles, and individuality.
They called it “the most authentic boxing game ever created.”
But over time, that vision faded into a blur of vague “hybrid” language, stripped-down systems, and empty buzzwords like “balance” and “accessibility.”

Now, the game stands without the two systems that define true simulation depth:

  • A slider system to customize realism and behavior.

  • An AI developer to make boxers think, adapt, and fight like themselves.

It’s not just disappointing — it’s tragic.
Because these weren’t “optional features.” They were the foundation.


 Sliders: The Engine of Realism and Depth

To most casual players, sliders might seem like simple difficulty tools. But in simulation design, sliders are the invisible backbone of realism, balance, and replayability.

They define how a game feels.
They determine whether you’re playing something deep and alive — or shallow and scripted.

A proper slider system turns a sports game into an ecosystem that evolves with its players.

 What Sliders Actually Do:

  • Control Realism: Adjust stamina drain, punch resistance, AI awareness, timing, and damage realism.

  • Define Behavior: Influence how aggressively AI fights, how often it counters, how it handles fatigue, or whether it pressures or evades.

  • Shape Personality: Customize styles for individual boxers — Ali’s fluidity, Tyson’s explosiveness, Mayweather’s precision.

  • Balance Gameplay: Developers and fans can fix imbalance through tuning instead of code rewrites.

  • Build Longevity: Players stay engaged because the experience evolves with each patch, each update, and each community discovery.

Without sliders, a game is static — its flaws permanent.
With sliders, the experience becomes a living sandbox of creativity, realism, and control.


 Sliders = Depth + Freedom = Replay Value

Sliders are how sports games grow beyond being just “games.”
They let players tune complexity to their own taste and skill level, creating layers of mastery over time.

In a boxing simulation, sliders could have created:

  • Variable fight pacing: Fast-paced exhibitions vs. slow, tactical title bouts.

  • Adaptive realism: Light stamina drain for casuals, brutal fatigue for hardcore sim players.

  • Boxer individuality: Tailored behavior that captures real ring tendencies.

  • Coach or corner customization: Recovery strength, advice frequency, and strategy tweaks.

It’s this flexibility that keeps players and creators invested for years.
Without it, the game feels like a one-note song — the same rhythm, the same mistakes, every single match.


 Simulation vs. Arcade Isn’t the Real Debate — Depth vs. Shallowness Is

Publishers love to claim “realism doesn’t sell.”
That’s not true. Lack of depth doesn’t sell.

Realism sells when it’s built intelligently. When it’s balanced by sliders, modes, and player choice.

That’s how NBA 2K, FIFA, Madden, MLB The Show, and even WWE 2K became global successes.
They didn’t abandon realism — they let players customize it.

 The Sports Game Standard in 2025

  • NBA 2K25: Sliders for everything from shot timing and fatigue to defense, fouls, and AI IQ.

  • WWE 2K24: Sliders for stamina, momentum gain, damage scale, and AI aggression — letting fans craft dream matches that feel authentic to specific eras or wrestlers.

  • Madden NFL 25: AI reaction sliders for defense, catch logic, and injury realism.

  • MLB The Show: Pitch accuracy, player speed, fielding realism, and dynamic difficulty.

  • FIFA / EA FC: Complete AI and physics tuning — pace, error rates, awareness, and more.

Even WWE 2K, a wrestling entertainment game, understands that fans crave control, variety, and realism tuning.
It lets players craft slow-burn Iron Man matches or chaotic arcade spectacles — all through sliders.

That’s what SCI should have done with Undisputed.
Instead, they gave us one rigid style and called it a compromise.


 The Fatal Mistake: Removing the AI Developer

Here’s where things go from disappointing to alarming.
SCI removed their AI developer — the person responsible for boxer intelligence, ring awareness, and adaptive behavior — and never rehired another.

That’s not just bad management. That’s like making a racing game and firing the person who handles the driving physics.

Without AI leadership, you can’t:

  • Program authentic boxer tendencies or strategies.

  • Implement behavior sliders tied to real-world fighting styles.

  • Create adaptive opponents that learn and counter.

  • Give individuality to legends like Ali, Tyson, or Canelo.

Instead, you get the same robotic movements, predictable combos, and cloned personalities — wrapped in different faces.

You can have 300 boxers, but if they all fight the same, you don’t have depth.
You have duplication.


 It Feels Intentional — Like Realism Was Silenced

The pattern is too clear to ignore:

  • The early simulation focus quietly disappeared.

  • The AI developer was removed and never replaced.

  • Realism systems were stripped or simplified.

  • “Simulation” was replaced with the term “hybrid.”

  • The community’s realistic feedback was ignored or dismissed.

It’s hard not to feel like this wasn’t a mistake — but a deliberate pivot.
Maybe someone decided realism wasn’t marketable.
Maybe leadership lacked the gaming experience to understand how vital these systems were.
Or maybe they wanted faster, cheaper development — even if it meant sacrificing authenticity.

But boxing fans aren’t casuals who can be fooled by marketing.
We study technique. We understand footwork. We feel when the rhythm of a match isn’t authentic.

And when a company removes the mind (AI) and tools (sliders) that bring realism to life, it stops being about boxing.
It becomes pretend.


 Selling Boxers for a Broken Game

Selling new boxers for a game with broken core systems isn’t content — it’s exploitation.

Boxers are being misrepresented, fans are being misled, and the sport’s image is being diluted.

Without a functioning AI or tuning system:

  • “Legends” don’t fight like legends.

  • “Power punchers” don’t hit differently from volume boxers.

  • “Defensive specialists” can’t use realistic movement or counter logic.

They’re just reskins — digital mannequins with names attached.

Fans aren’t paying for boxers; they’re paying for potential — and that potential keeps getting ignored.


 What Could Have Been: The Boxing Sandbox We Deserved

Let’s imagine Undisputed done right — built around a smart slider system and real AI leadership.

The Foundation of a True Boxing Simulator:

  1. Global Realism Sliders: Adjust fatigue, damage, physics, and AI IQ.

  2. Per-Boxer Profiles: Each boxer’s JSON/ScriptableObject defines style tendencies, footwork range, accuracy, and aggression.

  3. Dynamic AI System: Boxers learn throughout a fight — if you spam jabs, they counter; if you gas early, they pressure late.

  4. Era & Rule Set Options: Adjust pacing, gloves, and ring rules by decade or organization.

  5. Community Data Sync: Fans upload slider sets and AI profiles to share realism packs globally.

This wouldn’t just make Undisputed playable — it would make it legendary.

The kind of game people play for years, not weeks.
The kind of game that builds communities, not complaints.


 Realism Isn’t a Mode — It’s a Commitment

You can’t claim to represent boxing and ignore what makes it real.
Realism isn’t a switch you toggle — it’s a design philosophy.

Boxing is mental chess with consequences. Every feint, every step, every breath matters.
And yet, Undisputed treats it like a fighting game where every boxer shares the same brain.

You don’t sell boxing by dumbing it down — you sell it by honoring it.
You sell it by giving fans the tools to recreate its beauty and brutality their way.

That’s what sliders represent — respect for the sport and the player.


 The Industry Knows Better

The irony? Every other sports franchise has already proven this formula works.
They give fans sliders, customization, and deep simulation options because they know it extends the life of their games.

  • NBA 2K’s sliders drive entire online communities — realism rosters, difficulty packs, custom tournaments.

  • WWE 2K thrives on custom slider sets that recreate eras, legends, and TV-style realism.

  • FIFA’s realism sliders are used by career mode creators to simulate authentic league pacing.

  • MLB The Show uses community tuning to keep gameplay authentic every patch cycle.

Those sliders aren’t afterthoughts — they’re lifelines.
They’re how developers keep their games alive.
And they’re how fans become co-creators of the experience.

Imagine if Undisputed had embraced that.
It could’ve had entire communities sharing “realism slider packs” — Ali-era stamina sets, Tyson power tuning, Canelo precision AI, Mayweather defense packs.
That’s how you build legacy.


 The Hard Truth: SCI’s Direction Is the Real Problem

This isn’t just a technical failure. It’s a leadership one.
A creative control issue. A misunderstanding of what made boxing fans believe in Undisputed in the first place.

By removing the AI developer and skipping a slider system, SCI didn’t just cut corners — they cut authenticity.
They silenced the sport’s voice.

Realism wasn’t just missing.
It was removed on purpose.


 To the Developers, Publishers, and Investors

Stop underestimating realism.
Stop assuming boxing fans don’t understand depth.
Stop treating authenticity like a liability.

The data is there:

  • NBA 2K thrives on realism sliders.

  • WWE 2K thrives on customization.

  • Gran Turismo thrives on simulation.

  • MLB The Show thrives on balance.

The only ones who keep failing are those who try to reinvent what already works — by removing control instead of enhancing it.

Realism doesn’t drive players away.
Broken promises do.


 The Real Boxing Game Movement Will Not Stop

This isn’t bitterness. This is accountability.
Boxing is an art. It deserves digital representation that respects its science, rhythm, and soul.

We’re not asking for perfection.
We’re asking for truth.
We’re asking for systems that allow boxing to breathe — not suffocate under the weight of market fear.

Sliders and AI aren’t luxury features.
They are the difference between a fighting game and a boxing simulation.

Boxing doesn’t need another arcade show.
It needs a system that thinks, evolves, and respects the craft.


 Final Call: Join the Movement

Share this post.
Tag SCI, developers, and investors.
Remind them that fans aren’t fooled by marketing — we notice design choices, and we know what’s missing.

Let them hear it:

  • Realism matters.

  • Authenticity sells.

  • Sliders create freedom.

  • AI gives life.

Without them, Undisputed will remain what it is now — a ghost of what could’ve been.

#RealBoxingGameMovement
#BoxingDeservesBetter
#UndisputedGame
#BringBackRealism
#SimulationOverHype
#RespectTheSweetScience



Saturday, October 11, 2025

“Putting Paint on a Broken Car” Selling Broken Promises, Broken Boxers, and a Broken Game

 

“Putting Paint on a Broken Car” Selling Broken Promises, Broken Boxers, and a Broken Game


 1. A Misrepresentation of Boxing and Its Athletes

Steel City Interactive (SCI) is literally selling fans boxers in a broken game — a game that fails to represent those boxers realistically, visually, or mechanically.
These aren’t true reflections of the athletes. Many of the boxers in Undisputed don’t look, move, or fight like themselves. Their punches, movement rhythms, and fighting styles feel recycled and generic.

When a company sells you a name but not the person — when it sells a face that doesn’t even resemble the athlete behind it — that’s not authenticity. That’s misrepresentation.


 2. Selling Content for a Broken Foundation

SCI has admitted the game is broken — their own words.
Yet instead of rebuilding the engine, fixing the gameplay, and restoring the realism they promised, they’re painting over the cracks and selling DLC boxers like everything’s fine.

It’s like putting fresh paint on a broken car and trying to convince people it runs smoothly.
The loyal fans who supported the early access and believed in the original vision now feel robbed and insulted.


 3. Casual Fans Keep the Illusion Alive

Here’s the hard truth — some casual fans don’t care about the game’s condition.
They’ll buy every new boxer name that drops, even if it’s just a reskin of another character with slightly different stats or gloves.
They’ll celebrate every DLC announcement like it’s progress, ignoring that the game’s foundation — its realism, physics, and authenticity — is still cracked.

This kind of acceptance enables mediocrity. It tells the developers that broken quality is okay, as long as the packaging looks new.
And meanwhile, the hardcore boxing fans — the ones who care about authenticity and respect for the sport — are left watching their passion be watered down and monetized.


 4. Boxers Deserve Better Representation

Real fighters — real men and women — built careers defined by struggle, skill, and identity.
To see their likenesses sold in a broken, unfinished product that fails to capture who they truly are is disrespectful.

The game doesn’t just fail the fans; it fails the athletes it claims to honor.
Selling inaccurate or lazy representations of boxers is like selling fake autographs — it’s profitable deception.


 5. Fans Feel Cheated, Not Entertained

The loyal community that stood by SCI through early access updates believed in one promise: a realistic boxing simulation.
What they got instead was a downgraded, hybrid-style game with poor likenesses and missing features — followed by a push to buy more DLC content.

They’re not frustrated because they hate the game. They’re frustrated because they loved what it was supposed to be.


 6. When Developers Admit It’s Broken — But Keep Selling More

SCI publicly acknowledged that Undisputed is broken.
That should’ve been the point to pause, fix, and rebuild.
But instead, they doubled down — rolling out DLCs, selling boxers, and promoting editions that paint over the core problems.

It shows where the priorities truly lie — not with the fans, not with the athletes, but with sales.


 7. Real Boxing Fans Know the Difference

Hardcore boxing fans can’t be fooled by shiny marketing.
They want authentic footwork, realistic stamina systems, true-to-life physics, and boxers who fight like themselves — not recycled animations under a new name.

They know that real boxing is chess, not checkers.
It’s mental warfare, stamina management, angles, rhythm, and timing. All of that is missing when developers chase quick profits instead of realism.


 8. Final Message to SCI and Investors

Stop selling dreams on a broken foundation.
Stop hiding behind DLC and hype when the core game still misrepresents the sport and the boxers within it.
You can’t keep charging fans for new names while ignoring the real issues.

Because no matter how many coats of paint you put on it — a broken car is still broken.
And the fans who love this sport, the ones who know its beauty and complexity, will never stop calling out the difference between boxing and what you’re trying to sell as boxing.

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